1.2.3 Update observations

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:51 pm

Not sure if this is known, but just noticed that baby animals (I think this only applies to sheep though), grow up faster if they eat grass.

Might be useful to know for sheep farming.

Will post anything else I find in the code while updating to this thread.

SgtChuckle · Post by **SgtChuckle** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:52 pm

Yess, that's pretty cool! I've always wanted to mitigate the long wait between animal birth and bloody slaughter and if it means giving them some grass to munch on instead of locking them in a small stone room, cool.

Itamarcu · Post by **Itamarcu** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:54 pm

That sounds...interesting.

On a completely different note, "Grass" in Hebrew also means "Cannabis", so children who become more mature by taking drugs seems alright to me. :)

embirrim · Post by **embirrim** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:21 pm

I believe this was already in 1.1... Are you sure it wasn't?

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:22 pm

embirrim wrote:I believe this was already in 1.1... Are you sure it wasn't?

It's possible. I only noticed it while going through some of the restructured AI code, so it may have been elsewhere before.

I've just never seen mention of it, so thought I'd pass it along.

RaustBlackDragon · Post by **RaustBlackDragon** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:24 pm

I honestly don't understand why sheep breeding needs to be made any easier. You never have to kill sheep now that they regrow their wool, so making them the most easily-bred when they have no predators, not even the player, seems kinda excessive to me.

gftweek · Post by **gftweek** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:54 pm

RaustBlackDragon wrote:I honestly don't understand why sheep breeding needs to be made any easier. You never have to kill sheep now that they regrow their wool, so making them the most easily-bred when they have no predators, not even the player, seems kinda excessive to me.

I thought until now sheep were the only animal with a predator, although I suppose you get plenty of sheep spawning in places where wolves don't.

Do Cats/Ocelots hunt chickens?

I suppose Testificates are prey now too for the zombies.

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:55 pm

gftweek wrote: Do Cats/Ocelots hunt chickens?

Yup, they do.

Gargantuan_Penguin · Post by **Gargantuan_Penguin** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:56 pm

I believe the ocelots are supposed to hunt chickens but I have never seen it happen.
:edit: ninja'd by flower

gftweek · Post by **gftweek** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:05 pm

FlowerChild wrote:
gftweek wrote: Do Cats/Ocelots hunt chickens?
Yup, they do.

Ah cool, I've only seen one Ocelot so far, and was just wandering around with a wooden pickaxe at that stage so didn't stop to watch them. So far my closest Jungle doesn't seem to have any now that I finally have some fish.

Does anyone else find it odd that what wolves and ocelots hunt has no relationship to what you tame or feed them with? Oh and apparently cats can open doors?

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:33 pm

gftweek wrote:Oh and apparently cats can open doors?

Cats can do anything they choose to. Most of the time, they just can't be bothered.

Stormweaver · Post by **Stormweaver** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:42 pm

FlowerChild wrote:Most of the time, they just can't be bothered.

Though less out of laziness, and more out of knowing that sitting next to the door allows for the use of mind control on unsuspecting humans nearby - resulting in the door being opened without any hassle.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:51 pm

I've noticed they can open Iron doors as well... I don't know how the reach the button >.>

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:56 pm

morvelaira wrote:I've noticed they can open Iron doors as well... I don't know how the reach the button >.>

Telekinesis. Don't let them know that you know about it.

Kain Magin · Post by **Kain Magin** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:59 pm

gftweek wrote:
FlowerChild wrote:Oh and apparently cats can open doors?

Yes... they can ^^

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gftweek · Post by **gftweek** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:16 pm

Kain Magin wrote:
gftweek wrote:
FlowerChild wrote:Oh and apparently cats can open doors?
Yes... they can ^^

Handles are easy, knobs are harder. My pussy knows just what to do with knobs. Err, what were we talking about again.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:28 pm

gftweek wrote:Handles are easy, knobs are harder. My pussy knows just what to do with knobs. Err, what were we talking about again.

Omg! It wasn't me this time!

>.>
<.<

I just want to say that I'm better.

*flees*

walker_boh_65 · Post by **walker_boh_65** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:29 pm

morvelaira wrote:
gftweek wrote:Handles are easy, knobs are harder. My pussy knows just what to do with knobs. Err, what were we talking about again.

Omg! It wasn't me this time!

I'm proud of you. :)

Post by **Battosay** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:29 pm

Kain Magin wrote:

Yes... they can ^^

My cat does that too :)

Post by **FlowerChild** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:21 pm

Here's a messed up little observation:

Ok, so a few versions ago, all the hard-coded values for the world height of 128 were removed and replaced by variables, making them rather easy to configure for mods that wanted to adjust the world height.

Well, it turns out, all the references to those variables have been switched back to hard-coded height values of 256.

Not only is this a huge 'wtf', but it also probably means that world height will not be made a player-option in the future (which I suspected it would be).

EDIT: I suspect this was for optimization purposes with the new map format. It does not bode well however for mods that alter the map height...they likely have a lot of work ahead of them.

RaustBlackDragon · Post by **RaustBlackDragon** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:14 am

FlowerChild wrote:Here's a messed up little observation:

Ok, so a few versions ago, all the hard-coded values for the world height of 128 were removed and replaced by variables, making them rather easy to configure for mods that wanted to adjust the world height.

Well, it turns out, all the references to those variables have been switched back to hard-coded height values of 256.

Not only is this a huge 'wtf', but it also probably means that world height will not be made a player-option in the future (which I suspected it would be).

EDIT: I suspect this was for optimization purposes with the new map format. It does not bode well however for mods that alter the map height...they likely have a lot of work ahead of them.

The code alterations in general don't strike me (or the person I've been in contact with) as being particularly modder-friendly. It's rather disappointing.

Post by **FlowerChild** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:43 am

RaustBlackDragon wrote:The code alterations in general don't strike me (or the person I've been in contact with) as being particularly modder-friendly. It's rather disappointing.

<Shrug> Nothing has bothered me so far about them.

Itamarcu · Post by **Itamarcu** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:57 am

I really hope they are trying to do something smart. I mean, I really hope they are doing something smart.

FlowerChild wrote:
morvelaira wrote:I've noticed they can open Iron doors as well... I don't know how the reach the button >.>
Telekinesis. Don't let them know that you know about it.

Have you ever seen the movie "Rubber"? It's about a car tire who can explode things with his own, uhh, "will".

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:06 am

itamarcu wrote:Have you ever seen the movie "Rubber"? It's about a car tire who can explode things with his own, uhh, "will".

Robert is so happy when the bunny dies, too. You can tell by the way he bounces. No reason.

badmojo98 · Post by **badmojo98** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:18 am

Rubber was a truly awesome movie. I might have to re-watch it now that you've reminded me :)

to stay on topic though, BIOME EDITORS ARE STARTING TO BE COMPLETED!!!! finally, i can build a map with rivers, deserts and forests all where i want them! =D

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