Potential List of Discarded/Discussed Feature Ideas

[Speltz]

Rejected Feature Suggestions


The purpose of this thread is to collect all of the suggested features from the old forum that FC decided not to include. Basically, if you have an idea for a new feature for Better Than Wolves, you can check this list to see if it has already been discussed and rejected.

So far, I've found that every reasonable suggestion that FlowerChild has rejected was accompanied by careful consideration and discussion. So if your idea is on this list, its probably best to assume that bringing it up again won't change FC's mind. To get a better idea of the thinking behind these decisions, you can check out this topic about Minecraft and the BTW Philosophy.

Also, jamestully22 (author of the Un-Official Suggestion topic) is planning on adding all of the original posts about these suggestions into a list, so you could check out the exact discussion that took place.

CURRENTLY AT PAGE: 112/480 (only going up until the time that this forum began)
Since the things posted on this list are going up in chronological order from the beginning of the old MCForum topic, there will be a number of items that have been changed at a later date. Also, there are a few things in the rejected list that would more appropriately be called 'back-burner' topics that FC appeared interested in, but only after the grand designs are up and running. But I figure that bringing them up again won't really accomplish much either, since FC's already aware of them.

CATEGORIES: Block Dispensers | Cement | Coal/Torches | Detector Blocks | Farming/Hemp | Furnaces | Light Blocks | Minecarts/Rails | Mobs | Redstone Circuits/Elements | Ropes/Platforms/Pulleys | Water | Weapons/Armour/Traps | Wolves/Companion Cubes | Miscellaneous

HOLDING AREA UNTIL CLASSIFIED

REJECTED/DROPPED SUGGESTIONS

BLOCK DISPENSERS
-Extended Dispenser (To Push Previously Dispensed Blocks Along and Pop Out a New One)
-Liquid Source Dispensing
-Dispenser that Doesn't Remove Blocks When Not Powered
-Block Dispenser/Hopper Pulling Things From Inventories

CEMENT
-Cement-Like Material for Other Block Types
-Clay+Gravel+Sand+Water Recipe for Cement
-Cement --> Cobblestone
-Dirt-Based Cement with 2x Coverage
-Cement Dye
-Cement Hardening Into Irregular (Non-Cube) Shapes
-Adding Cement to the Brick-->Brick Block Recipe

COAL AND TORCHES
-Coal Block
-Longer Torches
-Charcoal+Netherrack to Make NetherCoal
-NetherTorch (Increased Lighting Radius)

DETECTOR BLOCKS
-Detector Block 'Filters' for Mobs/Player/Items
-Detector Block Only Seeing Fully-Grown Wheat
-Detector Blocks Seeing Day/Night
-Increase Detector Block Range with Attached Redstone Torch

FARMING AND HEMP
-Hemp Overtly Used as Drug
-Cow Dung as Long Term Fertilizer (Boost Growth Rate Slightly, Not Instant)
-Rain Source Block
-Hemp Growth Rate Varies According to Biome
-Flower Pots
-Hemp Fibres Replaced by String
-Hemp Growing in the Wild
-Farming Combine (Plows Ground/Plants Seeds in Inventory/Carves Channel for Water When Pushed)

FURNACES AND CAULDRONS
-Smelting Station (Control Block for Bank of Furnaces)
-Furnace Works Better In Nether (Due to Higher Heat Level)
-Upgraded Furnace with Multiple Stacks/Queue's
-Electric Furnace With Habachi Grill
-Lava Heat For Cauldron


LIGHT BLOCKS
-Light Bulb Shapes for Light Blocks
-Coloured Light Blocks
-Flicker Start Up For Light Blocks

MINECARTS AND RAILS
-Minecart Connector (To Make Trains)
-Rideable Powered Minecarts
-Detector Rail for a Filled vs. Empty Storage Minecart
-Launcher Tracks (Stationary --> Boost)
-Pedalled Minecart (So Player Powers It)

MOBS
-Random Mob-Spawner
-Saddle Bags for Peaceful Mobs
-Mob-Pulled Wagons/Barges
-Randomly-Sized Fish with Varying Healing Points
-Cage For Mobs
-Animal Breeding
-Harnessed Animals (For Mills, Plowing Farmland...)
-Mob-Repelling Campfire

REDSTONE CIRCUITS
-Changing Sign Messages with Redstone
-Redstone Block (Dust Storage and Light)
-Redstone Computer Chip (Compact Redstone Circuits within Storage Chest)
-Redstone Transmitters
-Vertical Redstone
-Redstone Current Switches (Stop/Start Current Based on Direction of Redstone Input)
-Netherrack Button
-Variable Light Sensor (For Redstone Circuits)
-Redstone Current Generating Furnace
-Customizable Omni-Directional Redstone Output Blocks
-Glass Block that Becomes Opaque with Redstone Current
-Redstone Activated Lava Source
-Hanging Redwire
-Lens Serial Transmission (For Bus Systems Over Taxi Systems) [No idea what this is]
-Redstone Placeable on Irregular Shaped Blocks (OmniSlabs, Stair...)
-Mechanical-Input Block that Outputs Redstone Current

ROPE PLATFORMS PULLEYS
-Rope Arrows
-Braided Rope (For Easier Mounting)
-Stopping Point at End of Rope Descent
-Glowing Elevators (Platforms) When Standing Still
-Anchor/Rope for Holding Boats in Place
-Zip Lines (Horizontal Rope Travel)
-Glowing Rope
-Rope-Based Trap (Entangles or Strangles Mobs)
-Hangmans Nooses/Torture Racks

WATER
-Fans (To Manipulate Water Flow)
-Fluid Grid/Grate
-Water Current Control
-Single Aquarium Block
-Steam Power and Uses (Cauldron+Water+Pressure=Power --> Turbines....) [Assuming this was replaced by mechanical power]
-Floating Block (Similar to a Gravity-Affected Block, but Floats Upwards in Water)
-Water-Absorbing/Replacing Foam
-Waterwheel with Metal Edges to Spokes (For Lava? and Stronger Output)
-Ferris Wheel (Waterwheel with Torches on Spokes)
-Water Pump
-Horizontal Waterwheels
-Fishing Net
-Kayaks (Made of Wool and Hemp Fibers as early 'Fibreglass')

COMBAT
-Punji Sticks/Stakes/Spikes
-TNT Cannon Block
-Fire Arrows
-TNT Fuse (String + Gunpowder)
-Studded Leather Armour
-Bomb Block (TNT encased in Obsidian)
-Poison
-Chainmail
-Boiled Leather Armour [Assuming this also applies to Scoured/Tanned Leather Armour]
-Rope-Based Trap (Entangles or Strangles Mobs)
-Hangmans Nooses/Torture Racks
-Armor Made of Wolves Textures

WOLVES AND COMPANION CUBES
-Wolf Armour
-Companion Cubes Turn Back Into Wolves
-Companion Cubes Made of Non-Wolf Mobs
-Gravity-Affected Companion Cubes [Not sure what the status is on this]
-Wolf Muzzle
-Waterwheel made from Companion Cubes

MISC
-Silver Ore & Crafting
-Wool Half-Blocks
-Fish Oil
-Glue
-Furniture
-Thruster Block (Attached to and Moving Floating Blocks)
-Automatic Resource Mining/Collection Equipment
-'Wallpapers' (Textures/Skins to be Applied to Objects in Game)
-Reinforced Glass
-'Trampoline' Block
-Levitator Block (To Adjust Vertical Position)
-Portable Filled Chests/Backpacks
-Fences Placed at Edges of Blocks Rather Than Middle
-Lightning Rod with Energy Storage
-Meatloaf (From Pork or Wolf Chop)
-Delete Block (Removes Surrounding Blocks When Placed)
-Metal Rings (For Chainmail, Catapults[?])
-Clothing/Tailoring
-Potions
-MillStone Grinding Down Stone Blocks (Stone-->Cobblestone-->Gravel-->Sand)
-'TurnTable' Block (Rotating Top Surface for Redstone Currents/Minecart Tracks/Vomiting Wolves)
-Bone Handles For Tools
-Sandstone and Cobblestone Omni-Slabs
-Advanced Automated Crafting Table
-Mossy Cobblestone In Dark Caves with Water Nearby
-TNT Mining (TNT Blasts Downwards)
-Non-Flammable Wool
-Blankets
-Fishing Net
-Spinning Wheel (Wool --> String)
-BTW Specific Achievements
-Parachute
-Hand-pulled Wagons for Chests/Dispensers/Crafting Tables...
-Powered Gearbox Connected to Adjacent Gearboxes (Without Axles)
-Coloured Flags (For SMP Capture the Flag)
-Kayaks (Made of Wool and Hemp Fibers as early 'Fibreglass')
-Spinning Axles (Using Moving Textures)
-Heat Block (To Increase Growth Rates for All Crops)
-Atlas (Book Containing Multiple Maps)

[Miss_Kat]

One that I know of is the lens, which I believe needs to wait for the next tech tree in order to be implemented. It would allow detector blocks to "see" farther than just right in front of them.

[magikeh]

I was wondering if one of the higher ups from the old forum would be willing to make up a list of the features that were discussed and rejected, or are planned for future releases, with the aim of cutting down the number of topics and posts on this fresh, clean forum that would just be going back over old ground. It would be very helpful for people like me who are chomping at the bits to contribute some new ideas, but who aren't particularly thrilled about poring over 400+ pages from the old forum to see if their ideas have already been around the block.

If you would like we could add a list to the topic over here (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17) of all the ideas that were submitted!!

[Speltz]

I guess it would be up to the elite, but it seems to me that it would be a bit lost in the general discussion and submission stuff. But, as I say, elite word is law.

[Speltz]

Hate to self-bump, but after seeing how long this is going to take (just on page 21 of the original forum) I want to make sure that this is something that would be needed, even if the content will be moved over to another topic.

[FlowerChild]

Just a couple of clarifications on your list (which I think is a great idea btw):

The Lens/Laser/Light Detector/and focused redstone torch are all part of the same integrated design now, which is: The Lens.

The Fence Gate is still a possibility (but a very low priority).

Everything else in the potential/planned category has been rejected or dropped.

I was actually planning on putting out a list in the Official Announcements of the features I already have announced and still plan to do. I hesitated from doing such a thing in the old thread since it didn't exactly fit in the OP, and would have just gotten lost if I posted it normally. But here, it makes a lot more sense.

Anyways, until I get the official list done, here's a few more thing you can add to yours as "planned":

-Minecart rails being lifted on platforms.
-Powering the Water Wheel with water that falls from above, along the sides of the wheel.
-Various alternate recipes that use the wood bits produced by the saw to provide cheaper alternatives to the existing ones.
-A change to the Saw recipe that moves it further up on the tech tree (i.e. requires a component not yet in the mod).

Those are all the ones that spring to mind at present, although I may have forgotten a couple :)

[FlowerChild]

Oh yeah, and I already announced that they'll be a new recipe for the Block Dispenser in the next release that will use less Mossy Cobble, and that I'd be changing a number of recipes in the mod to use smooth stone instead of cobble as well.

[darahalian]

I know that some of the items in that list are already implemented in other mods.

Changing sign messages with redstone and a whole lot of other dynamic sign info is available with the Sign Tags mod by Risugami (the creator of ModLoader). Risugami has also made a light sensor. These are both on his forum thread.

There is a vertical redstone mod here.

There is a mod for half doors and fence gates here. It also makes double doors open together by just clicking on them, so you don't need to make a weird circuit.

[Speltz]

Alright, back from work and decided that I'll start reorganizing the OP right now, rather than waiting until all the ideas from the old forum have been brought over. I'm planning on prettying up the intro so as to state the purpose and concept behind the topic, separate the rejected list into broad categories (such as redstone circuits, cement, light blocks, misc. etc), and take out the planned/potential category once Flower's official list is up. Hopefully, this will let people search through the available content with much more convenience while the list is being filled.

[mikello324]

You forgot my rejected idea of adding cement to the recipe for turning 4 intem bricks into a brick block (because there's cement in the texture of the final product).

[SterlingRed]

Less mossy for bd and smoothstone in other recipes has been implemented and could be removed from the planned features section of the OP.

[Speltz]

You forgot my rejected idea of adding cement to the recipe for turning 4 intem bricks into a brick block (because there's cement in the texture of the final product).

Yeah, still have a lot of the old stuff to go through, but I'll throw that one up now.

And I'll get rid of the potential/planned stuff that was included in the latest update.

[Speltz]

Alright, getting back to work with the list after a few days of IRL stuff and playing MC. Decided to finally get my hands dirty with redstone (but trying to learn by trial and error rather than looking up tutorials), and just got the first crop from my first hemp auto-farm. Probably pretty unimpressive but I'm proud of it nonetheless.
Also, until the list of original suggestions posts is completed, I can do my best to explain why these suggestions were rejected or put on the backburner if anyone has questions.