The Trio: BTW + BC + IC^2

[Miner7747]

.. it was a response to that...

Ah, ok then.

One thing I'd love to see Notch tackle is a solution to the block ID's though. It's currently very unwieldy to install multiple mods, even if it's perfectly possible.

I should look into it. I have an idea for an MCE like mod that does it automatically, but more stable and not as resource hungry.

Having some better id management would be nice,for now we only have ID resolver which is incompatible with forge and wont work 70% of the time.
Btw,the best way to help with gIving more ids,(assuming your mod idea would do that)
Consider just applying the ability to fiit 512 blocks in 1 id like Eloraam is using to minecraft forge directly,(it is an open source project,just pm spacetoad your work when done) Eloraam is currently coding it in herself,only on her mods,and she has to do a ton of work each time to get it working,but if it was coded directly in minecraft forge,it would take signifigantly less work to add new blocks using that method.this could basically allow unlimited mod developpment. :)

EDIT: 2 pages of non n00b/spam/troll discussion!these forums are great!

[Gilberreke]

Having some better id management would be nice,for now we only have ID resolver which is incompatible with forge and wont work 70% of the time.
Btw,the best way to help with gIving more ids,(assuming your mod idea would do that)
Consider just applying the ability to fiit 512 blocks in 1 id like Eloraam is using to minecraft forge directly,(it is an open source project,just pm spacetoad your work when done) Eloraam is currently coding it in herself,only on her mods,and she has to do a ton of work each time to get it working,but if it was coded directly in minecraft forge,it would take signifigantly less work to add new blocks using that method.this could basically allow unlimited mod developpment. :)

It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. I won't discuss this further though, I don't make a habit of discussing my code with people.

And I'm already in touch with the Forge team, I even have committed code to it, no need to tell me how it works ;)

[Miner7747]

Having some better id management would be nice,for now we only have ID resolver which is incompatible with forge and wont work 70% of the time.
Btw,the best way to help with gIving more ids,(assuming your mod idea would do that)
Consider just applying the ability to fiit 512 blocks in 1 id like Eloraam is using to minecraft forge directly,(it is an open source project,just pm spacetoad your work when done) Eloraam is currently coding it in herself,only on her mods,and she has to do a ton of work each time to get it working,but if it was coded directly in minecraft forge,it would take signifigantly less work to add new blocks using that method.this could basically allow unlimited mod developpment. :)

It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. I won't discuss this further though, I don't make a habit of discussing my code with people.

And I'm already in touch with the Forge team, I even have committed code to it, no need to tell me how it works ;)

Btw,since your working with forge,is it possible to add hooks to the tall grass class?
I have seen alot of people complain about it being overwritten by another of their mods.

Sry,im a n00b at coding,just started reading a java book about an hour ago.
That's fine,i wouldnt discuss my code either.yeah,that sucks,still though,if eloraam can do it,with enough time,other modders can as well.( you'd need a converter though,it wouldnt work with previous versions,but converters arent a huge pain as far as i know)

[Miner7747]

Messed up paragraph placement on that post,sry.

[Gilberreke]

Btw,since your working with forge,is it possible to add hooks to the tall grass class?
I have seen alot of people complain about it being overwritten by another of their mods.

You're better off asking FC for this.

Sry,im a n00b at coding,just started reading a java book about an hour ago.
That's fine,i wouldnt discuss my code either.yeah,that sucks,still though,if eloraam can do it,with enough time,other modders can as well.( you'd need a converter though,it wouldnt work with previous versions,but converters arent a huge pain as far as i know)

Eloraam's code for that feature is already available through her core API, there's no need for a Forge version. This is NOT a fix for any block ID conflicts though, it's just a trick that's just a little more versatile for very specific block implementations.

[Haidaes]

No..

It's still a pain in the ass :P
I hope the "mod support" turns out to be more than just unobfuscated code, I so hope it will :/.

.. it was a response to that...

Well you know, after 10 Hours a day of C++/C# and figuring out why the fuck my signals get lost somewhere in the process, the last thing I'm interested in is messing around with Java in my spare time :P. Back when I studied electrical engineering it wasn't part of my job discription that 90% of time would be spend coding stuff, because some moron wants a touch panel with a start button instead of a simple switch, ah what ever thats what you get for not studying buisness crap ^^.

[Miner7747]

Btw,since your working with forge,is it possible to add hooks to the tall grass class?
I have seen alot of people complain about it being overwritten by another of their mods.

You're better off asking FC for this.

Sry,im a n00b at coding,just started reading a java book about an hour ago.
That's fine,i wouldnt discuss my code either.yeah,that sucks,still though,if eloraam can do it,with enough time,other modders can as well.( you'd need a converter though,it wouldnt work with previous versions,but converters arent a huge pain as far as i know)

Eloraam's code for that feature is already available through her core API, there's no need for a Forge version. This is NOT a fix for any block ID conflicts though, it's just a trick that's just a little more versatile for very specific block implementations.

alright,was not aware of that.anyways,little bit Off topic, back on topic.

gargamel also has a forest biome close,for wolves! plus a close desert,for oil!

[kravyn]

all the talk about the compatibility and I have yet to see anyone post the actual BTWconfig with it working with all 3 I would like to see redpower working with those 3 as well.

I am still learning on which IDs are used for each sometimes I wish each mod developer would display the ID's they use

[Deepsniper]

I got it working with all 4 jsut follow the IDs they gave up there and it should work...

[Miner7747]

I got it working with all 4 jsut follow the IDs they gave up there and it should work...

yup,only better than wolves IDs and entities need to be changed,the rest can be left alone,including other mods configs.

btw,gonna try adding somnia tonight. hope it works! :)

[Deepsniper]

It does and so does airships and shelves and armor stands and ect ect... im stull building a list of mods that work together (im looking at trying to get over 20)

[MagusUnion]

http://beta.mcmodcenter.net/index.php?/ ... 46-idlist/

Nice mod that gives you a master list of slots currently in use... very basic, but effective...

[Miner7747]

http://beta.mcmodcenter.net/index.php?/ ... 46-idlist/

Nice mod that gives you a master list of slots currently in use... very basic, but effective...

Yup,it's great,but use it for each mod individualy,as it's incompatible with redpower array. Very useful for finding IC2 ids.

[Miner7747]

It does and so does airships and shelves and armor stands and ect ect... im stull building a list of mods that work together (im looking at trying to get over 20)

Wow,great,all these mods add more possibilities to the core mods,plus enhance the game in their own way.

You beat me to somnia,now to try to get vehicles mod in first.

[Deepsniper]

been there done that too with a bit of configuring :P didnt like it too much though planes kinda ruins the game and so does vehicles...

[MagusUnion]

been there done that too with a bit of configuring :P didnt like it too much though planes kinda ruins the game and so does vehicles...

Wait, you managed to fix planes in your mod?

*quickly downloads like a mad man...* ...meh

Oh, and video coming soon of my work with the Trio... (taking longer to format than to record, lol)...

[Miner7747]

been there done that too with a bit of configuring :P didnt like it too much though planes kinda ruins the game and so does vehicles...

Wait, you managed to fix planes in your mod?

*quickly downloads like a mad man...*

Oh, and video coming soon of my work with the Trio... (taking longer to format than to record, lol)...

yeah,that would be epic.but i'd only really use the cars.

btw,looking forward to the video,i might make a youtube account just to sub :)

EDIT: you managed to edit your post during the time it took to write mine. wow. :P

[MagusUnion]

lol, sorry... I got excited very quickly at the idea of putting in planes with IC and other things... but when it said I had to install before forge to ensure compatibility, I was kinda like "do I feel like breaking my .jar today?"...

It's little issues like that I don't feel like messing with... partly why I'm such a fan of the MCForge system now... lol

[Miner7747]

lol, sorry... I got excited very quickly at the idea of putting in planes with IC and other things... but when it said I had to install before forge to ensure compatibility, I was kinda like "do I feel like breaking my .jar today?"...

It's little issues like that I don't feel like messing with... partly why I'm such a fan of the MCForge system now... lol

yeah,im very happy that MCforge reduces all tinkering but block id tinkering.

[MagusUnion]

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It's mostly a descriptive video explaining forge, IC^2, and a few other things... Mostly a promotional video for MCForge than anything else.. lol...

(Can I get a Mod to embed the link? idk how to on this forum)...

[Miner7747]

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It's mostly a descriptive video explaining forge, IC^2, and a few other things... Mostly a promotional video for MCForge than anything else.. lol...

(Can I get a Mod to embed the link? idk how to on this forum)...

yeah,pm spacetoad about that,he should be happy your generating some PR.

[Miner7747]

btw magus,will you be posting your next vid soon?

[Deepsniper]

mangus you beat me to it...

[MagusUnion]

yeah,pm spacetoad about that,he should be happy your generating some PR.

I did.. but I say a couple of things in the intro he didn't like, so hopefully I won't have to re-film the beginning to much...

mangus you beat me to it...

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[Miner7747]

yeah,pm spacetoad about that,he should be happy your generating some PR.

I did.. but I say a couple of things in the intro he didn't like, so hopefully I won't have to re-film the beginning to much...

mangus you beat me to it...

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i'm guessing it was saying that MCforge permits you to get rid of block id problems...
there is a way to use 1 ID per 512 blocks,but it's impossible to embed into MCforge,it must be embeded individualy.