Has anyone tested the maximum explosion of the Cauldron?

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Has anyone tested the maximum explosion of the Cauldron?

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I'm eager to see what level of decimation will occur by filling a Cauldron with 64 stacks of Hellfire Dust and cooking it under a stocked flame.

I so wanna make a city "Self Destruct" using this epic idea.
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The maximum radius is apocalypse. Don't know exact block distance yet, but it leveled my house.
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ROFL.

Was that maxed out? I wonder what the Gunpowder explosion size is. I was kinda hoping for "Apocalyptic decimation" levels of destruction.
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Well, it was as maxed out as I could get it, but the Hellfire Dust started smelting into bars immediately, so it wasn't the full 64 stacks. I'll try and set up a more proper experiment and analysis tomorrow, when it's not 1:45 a.m.
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Hmm, does it destroy all of the BTW blocks? I'm wondering if this is a viable excavation technique (mining out rooms for construction space, not resources).
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From the screenshots it looks like a similar sort of drop rate as a normal explosion, only like a third of the blocks (possibly less). I only see a couple of hibachis in there. You could get by with just one, but that's an expensive drilling operation: a hibachi, a bellows, a turntable (or some elaborate redstone), a waterwheel, some axles, a bunch of redstone dust, plus the effort to set it all up, PLUS the massive amount of hellfire dust you need, which would probably take you as much time to mine as the pit the explosion creates, if not more. I would say that until our chemical engineering has advanced to the point where we can harness this terrible power that this is not a viable method of excavation. Also, I for one rarely need a hemispherical hole, so you would still need to get down there and clean it up.

P.S. I forgot the cauldron and the repeaters/torches. Add to your capital cost estimate.
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I built my own bomb to check the results for my self. Used a hibachi not a Bellows as the trigger (to stop any turning into Blocks of concentrate.)

I was per-paired for a BIG Creator and Went to the trouble of building and Obsidian bunker and a Ring counter bases 5 Minuit timer. Then bang ... whimper. ... It did a little hole in the ground.

I was expecting a Creator that went from ground level to bedrock And Vaporized everything it touched. But no just a Bang - whimper Not a FING HUGE BANG. I hope FC see's the error of his ways messing with these kinds of materials should end in a game ending huge BANG. It should even destroy obsidian so we have no protection form it. (I had a piece of obsidian right above the Cauldron and it was still there after the boom. ow well...

Is still kind of Cool (when someone decoders the optimum Amount for detonation this might be a Expensive way to mine.) :)
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BigShinyToys wrote:I built my own bomb to check the results for my self . and used a hibachi not a Bellows as the trigger ( to stop any turning into Blocks of concentrate.)

I was per-paired for a BIG Creator and Went to the trouble of building and Obsidian bunker and a Ring counter bases 5 Minuit timer. Then Bang ... whimper . ... It did a little hole in the ground.

I was expecting a Creator that went from ground level to bedrock And Vaporized everything It touched. But no just a Bang - whimper Not A FING HUGE BANG . I hope FC see's the error of his ways messing with these kind of materials should end in a game ending huge BANG . it should even Destroy obsidian so we have no protection form it . ( i had a piece of obsidian right above the Cauldron and it was still there after the boom. ow well...

Is still kinda Cool ( when someone decoders the optimum Amount for detonation this might be a Expensive way to mine. ) :)
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I piled a cauldron full of sand and gunpowder and got pretty much the same size explosion as above. It had equal amounts of sand and powder, but I didn't go crunch it in terms of 5s.
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While a nuclear explosion would be nice, FC has said many times before that he hates breaking people's games.

Whether this be save incompatibility if forge becomes MCE, unleashing too many Ghasts and making FC feel like a griefer, changing blocks and causing peoples worlds to screw up, or leveling someones entire base of operations from an innocent mistake with a cauldron.

Just imagine if you were a newbie player and didn't keep backups of your saves D:
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grimper12341 wrote:While a nuclear explosion would be nice, FC has said many times before that he hates breaking people's games.

Whether this be save incompatibility if forge becomes MCE, unleashing too many Ghasts and making FC feel like a griefer, changing blocks and causing peoples worlds to screw up, or leveling someones entire base of operations from an innocent mistake with a cauldron.

Just imagine if you were a newbie player and didn't keep backups of your saves D:
I see you're point Newbie players house going boom might put them off BTW. but for the rest of us a NUKE would be cool and one with a Ring counter clock set up on a collapsible circuit . That gives me an idea for an adventure map ( DISARM MY BOMB ) a map where you have 5 min's to disarm a S#!^ load of TNT or cauldrons loaded with power .
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Although making the cauldron able to do bigger blasts, but making bigger blasts disabled by default in the config might work.
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Easier solution: Use multiple cauldrons if you want more boom (e.g. for an adventure map) :)
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Necropolis wrote:From the screenshots it looks like a similar sort of drop rate as a normal explosion, only like a third of the blocks (possibly less). I only see a couple of hibachi's in there. You could get by with just one, but that's an expensive drilling operation: a hibachi, a bellows, a turntable (or some elaborate redstone), a waterwheel, some axles, a bunch of redstone dust, plus the effort to set it all up, PLUS the massive amount of hellfire dust you need, which would probably take you as much time to mine as the pit the explosion creates, if not more. I would say that until our chemical engineering has advanced to the point where we can harness this terrible power that this is not a viable method of excavation. Also, I for one rarely need a hemispherical hole, so you would still need to get down there and clean it up.

P.S. I forgot the cauldron and the repeaters/torches. Add to your capital cost estimate.
Wow, I really didn't think that one through you're right, way to expensive. Also the individual blocks of tnt that the cauldron could make properly would make a much larger hole when used on their own.
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Did it with a full cauldron of 64 gunpowder.
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I expected more when ppl said it was gigantic. But tbh, thats not that much. The hole an IC-Nuke makes is big ^^.
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Has anyone tested if the explosions are directed?
Since cauldrons are open on the top, FC might have it programmed in a way, that the explosion above the cauldron is much bigger than that on the sides or below.
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from my experiments i got about the same explosion as shown above by filling the entire thing with 64 stacks of nether dust.
and from what i have seen it seems to be efficent-ish for mining, i got about half of the nether dust back and no cauldron but besides that i got all of the items seemed atleast.
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