Better Than Wolves Forum

So I sometimes swap between mods when I play with friends but I've been playing deep into a new BTW world recently, and when I switched back briefly I noticed a ton of features missing. Features that I forgot were actually BTW additions because of how natural they felt. I think it'd be interesting for people to share the more subtle BTW additions they forgot weren't part of Vanilla (or really any other mod). Some of my recent realizations:

• Animals don't pick up food from the ground in Vanilla.
• You're able to swim wearing iron armor in Vanilla.
• Animals are really much more annoying to lead in Vanilla.
• Animals wait around for you to murder them one by one in Vanilla.
• There isn't mutton in vanilla.
• Sugarcane can't be planted diagonal from water in vanilla!
• Your fist is a useful weapon in Vanilla.

Any other good ones we all forgot were actually subtle BTW features?

• Pathways don't speed you up in vanilla.
• Deserts are one of the safest biomes in vanilla
• Vanilla has wood and stone swords and hoes
• Chickens can breed in two different ways in vanilla
• You can dye sheep to make them mutants in vanilla
• Beacons are so weird and confusing in vanilla
• The nether is safe (and rarely used other that travel) in vanilla

Now that you reminded me of the craziness of the old days I feel like BTW is closer to vanilla than actual game!

EDIT: and horses. they don't fit in the game at all for a mob.

• Food is very easy to obtain and hoard in vanilla
• Torches are the single most useless and useful item in vanilla
• Saplings fall out of leaves like manna from heaven in vanilla
• Iron is meh in vanilla, in both value and strength
• The "farming" is horrifically easy
• Ain't nobody fishin' in vanilla

Puzzled wrote:Now that you reminded me of the craziness of the old days I feel like BTW is closer to vanilla than actual game!

When I started playing BTW, I noticed myself playing my main vanilla world less and less. Eventually, I realized that the piece of chicken that was in my inventory on the world was the same one I had from 6 months ago! Which also goes to show that the hunger rate is outa whack :P Now BTW is my vanilla!

Hardcore Bedding. That may not seem like a subtle feature, but I started a survival world without Better than Wolves and it took me nearly half an hour to remember what beds do in vanilla. I then immediately quit. Beds really are a ridiculous feature, and the game feels much more natural without them.

At the time mutton was added to BTW, I would rarely read the change log. As I result, I had a thought that mutton was vanilla up until last December when I learned otherwise. I realized this when I was educating a couple friends about BTW and how it is superior to all of the mods that they play. Well during that conversation, I started talking about the importance of food and that you actually have to eat food rather than living off of zombies. I told them, "and with BTW you actually get to try out all of the vanilla foods: steak, porkchops, ... mutton." It was only when I saw their confused looks did I realize mutton was from BTW not vanilla! For an entire year, I had just assumed mutton was vanilla! It just belonged so well.

Never forgot these but I mistakenly reach for them.

Mason11987 wrote:

• There isn't mutton in vanilla.

This. 100x this. Every time I play vanilla, I'm like "WTF sheeps, gimme your delicious flesh! Oh... wait.. f'in useless animal."

One of the most subtle 'features' that I noticed, is the fact that when you place a dirt slab in an area where it can't be placed (i.e. the upper half of a block above the ground or the lower half on the ceiling) it automatically places the block in the position where it can be placed rather than not placing it at all. It's something that really defines the level of refinement in BTW for me, as I expected it to simply not place at all.

The debug screen covers half the page with useless information.
Floaty white-text showing all the players.
Constant night-vision effect.

It has been a long time since I played vanilla, but I do have two more things for the list.

- No Dirt slabs in Vanilla
- The constant overeating. It is so annoying and wrong! If you lose more than two hunger you can no longer run, but steak give back four hunger. Why oh why Vanilla?

cooked carrots
fishing pole recipe with iron
iron nuggets

Floating items

I was surprised when I heard some plinging sounds, when mining coal and other ores. It's just strange how easy it is to get XP in vanilla. Also with 1.8 XP seems as unimportant as ever!

Yeah I played vanilla the other day just to see what everyone else lives with. Within 15 minutes I had a full set of iron armor, iron tools, potatoes, carrots and wheat and 4 levels of XP without even killing a mob. I didn't have to use any wood tools at all because a creeper tried to blow me up in the first 2 minutes and set some cobble free.

BTW has really forked completely away from vanilla, vanilla Minecraft is a sandbox game which it seems they throw survival stuff in for formality; while BTW is a survival/progression game.

If you're going to use eggs, do NOT throw them.
Cows are an infinite milk source, but milk is useless anyway.
Want coloured wool? Paint a sheep. Honestly, this is boring.
If you kill an animal, the herd just looks at you, they don't run away.
Dirt and wood are made of butter. No axes or shovels needed.
Sugar cane needs to side water... just a corner won't do it.
Hyperactive crops.
"Water channel goes here, then there, then... nevermind, I can move the water source."
"This looks gross, but I can refine it with some microbl... oh wait I got no saw."
"Branch mining, branch mining, oh look a cave... [lock it and forget it] branch mining..." (funny, I used to hate caving.)

And I got killed by a creeper, while I was trying to castrate it.

chaoticneutral wrote:And I got killed by a creeper, while I was trying to castrate it.

Classic.

Even when I'm not killing you guys...I'm still killing you ;)

FlowerChild wrote:

chaoticneutral wrote:And I got killed by a creeper, while I was trying to castrate it.

Classic.

Even when I'm not killing you guys...I'm still killing you ;)

You... YOU! It's your fault! :D

And it's actually quite ironic, since I reached the Nether in my last BTW world without a single creeper-related death...