I just realised that this would not work even if you invert the input too, since each time the blocks are replaced there will be a short period of no power during which the output will change. (Even when changing from conductive to conductive blocks.) Sorry about spreading misinformation.Stormweaver wrote:The inverter's a fine idea, but you'd have to invert the input as well, and that pretty much doubles the size of the setup - it's an option where the circuitry allows for it though.Harcion wrote:He's talking about using it as a counter. For example, with four boats and one conductive block only every fifth pulse will generate an output pulse. But for this to work you need either non-stackable non-conductive blocks or full stacks of them as Battosay observed.Urian wrote:Um, why can't you just use one glass and one conductive block (as Battosay also states in the OP)?
Alternatively, you could use an inverter and several stacks of conductive blocks and one non-conductive one. (Possible use for all those stacks of cobblestone and dirt...)
And nice idea Stormweaver, I'm currently using the setup while testing my automatic mining machine in my legit world.
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For that monostable, Stormweaver, here you go:
The button deploys a block in the BD, which allows power to the BD so that the block will not retract, while it also gives power out and to the repeaters, which will deactivate the torch, de-powering the BD and resetting the circuit.
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The button deploys a block in the BD, which allows power to the BD so that the block will not retract, while it also gives power out and to the repeaters, which will deactivate the torch, de-powering the BD and resetting the circuit.
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I can't be sure without testing it, but that looks like it'd become a clock it the input remained on for too long :s plus i can't see a way of making it smaller than a normal monostable. Might just be me being blind from just waking up thought, I'll play around with it later.
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One thing to note, you can also make this into a sort of extended counter if you place multiple types of solid block in with the glass block, then invert the output.
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Right before falling asleep last night, I realized that if you delay the the input, it should be able to stay on for as long as the delay is, then it will stop receiving power. Pics in a sec, if it works.
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You'd still have to bridge the time it takes to change the blocks with a delayed AND Gate. Otherwise you are outputting short "false-positive" pulses. So the design will get bigger.AgentPaper wrote:One thing to note, you can also make this into a sort of extended counter if you place multiple types of solid block in with the glass block, then invert the output.
Except being uggly boats are perfect for the job. They're cheap and it simply works.Harcion wrote: I just realised that this would not work even if you invert the input too, since each time the blocks are replaced there will be a short period of no power during which the output will change. (Even when changing from conductive to conductive blocks.) Sorry about spreading misinformation.
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Later on I'll get a couple of annotated screenshots together to explain things a bit better.
This thread's alright for now, but maybe we should start a dedicated circuitry thread together at some point (possibly after a new release so we have new material to work with) that details the BTW-exclusive methods of doing things, and where they could/should replace standard redstone/piston circuitry; you know, using the inspiration of the masses and knowledge of the experienced to...make our lives a little more efficient. BTW-Style.
And still got no mini-monostable >.>
This thread's alright for now, but maybe we should start a dedicated circuitry thread together at some point (possibly after a new release so we have new material to work with) that details the BTW-exclusive methods of doing things, and where they could/should replace standard redstone/piston circuitry; you know, using the inspiration of the masses and knowledge of the experienced to...make our lives a little more efficient. BTW-Style.
And still got no mini-monostable >.>
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If you don't count the space needed for the in and out puts on a normal monostable, the smallest I've seen without pistons is 2x3x2:
plus the delay you want to incorporate.
With this design:,
it creates a 1x1x2 circuit, not counting the input , output, or delay.
plus the delay you want to incorporate.
With this design:,
it creates a 1x1x2 circuit, not counting the input , output, or delay.
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that t flip flop is tiny . makes me think i should try to make a RAM modual for a computer im working on. maby BTW can beat a 4 tick ram modal made of only redstone
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It's the bit creating the delay that kills it though; as a general rule it's hard to get one smaller than 2x3; which is fine as for most thing I only need a 0.3 second pulse. But it's 3 times the size of everything else >.>HavokSCOUT wrote:SpoilerShowIf you don't count the space needed for the in and out puts on a normal monostable, the smallest I've seen without pistons is 2x3x2:
plus the delay you want to incorporate.
With this design:,
it creates a 1x1x2 circuit, not counting the input , output, or delay.
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Thanks for the discussion here all, using these designs with the BD (solid/glass, redstone) with my upwards item lift to time it all etc. Works like a charm!! =)
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Ooh, can we see? 8DFaceFoiled wrote:Thanks for the discussion here all, using these designs with the BD (solid/glass, redstone) with my upwards item lift to time it all etc. Works like a charm!! =)
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Most certainly. :)
I don't really show it in great detail though, but I can do another video of it if requested:
I don't really show it in great detail though, but I can do another video of it if requested:
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Very cool haha. I'm curious now if there is a way to sort out the various wood blocks...FaceFoiled wrote:Most certainly. :)
I don't really show it in great detail though, but I can do another video of it if requested:
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It took me such a long time to figure out the timings on the piston at the bottom, to stop the water from dropping stuff underneath the platform but still have it connected to the platform so it goes in a loop as well. :P But it works! It shall not be touched again ^_^
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Haha, I know what you mean. Many of my redstone contraptions consist of a lot of testing, then never touching it again once it works.
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