Who here makes their own mods?

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:35 pm

I was just curious on how many people here code their self. :)
I do, although i am a newb. :P

HavokSCOUT · Post by **HavokSCOUT** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:46 pm

Which OS do you use? I'd love to make my own mods but I am inexperienced with coding in any language and my computer does wierd stuff when I try to download the JDK :(

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:06 pm

Learning some C++ has been my little project for the past couple months but I'm interested in learning more about Minecraft and mods. There's a lot of really great tutorials and tutorial documentation out there that posters linked in the thread on MCForums such as;

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/264 ... -beginner/

I followed that and had no problems :)

Edit: I forgot the name of the regular who linked the above resource - super sorry, I added it to my favourites without thinking!

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:18 pm

HavokSCOUT wrote:Which OS do you use? I'd love to make my own mods but I am inexperienced with coding in any language and my computer does wierd stuff when I try to download the JDK :(

?Hahah funny story, i run on windows 7, see my computer did funny stuff too until i restored my PC to factorysettings, that cured all of my problems :)

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:19 pm

Kitty wrote:Learning some C++ has been my little project for the past couple months but I'm interested in learning more about Minecraft and mods. There's a lot of really great tutorials and tutorial documentation out there that posters linked in the thread on MCForums such as;

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/264 ... -beginner/

I followed that and had no problems :)

Edit: I forgot the name of the regular who linked the above resource - super sorry, I added it to my favourites without thinking!

Yeah i started java about 3 days ago, it took me about 30 minutes to make my first block and now my whole house is built out of that block (; I just need to figure out HOW to add the texture override code to my mods code. but i need a lot of help with that i just dont get how to do it :/

RegularX · Post by **RegularX** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:22 pm

I'm considering it. I used to mod the Unreal engine a lot, Minecraft is the first game in a while to make me consider getting back into it. Was waiting for MCP to be on 1.7, now I just need some free time.

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:23 pm

My advice would be to (safely!) dig around - is there a block that already exists that does what you'd like? If so have a look at the code, find out what commands do what. That's pretty much my philosophy for stuff - learn by doing but not messing anything up. If I can help specifically then I will do and hopefully you'll post some updates on your progress!

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:27 pm

Kitty wrote:My advice would be to (safely!) dig around - is there a block that already exists that does what you'd like? If so have a look at the code, find out what commands do what. That's pretty much my philosophy for stuff - learn by doing but not messing anything up. If I can help specifically then I will do and hopefully you'll post some updates on your progress!

Thats what i did i looked around in the chest code and found a texture overide i think but i just dont nknow how to implement into my code. I know i can do it, i just need to understand whats going on to code it out, or someone coiuld code it for me and ill copy and past. (; lmao :P

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:33 pm

By texture override do you mean the command that pulls up the inventory thing as a window? If so then I know the screens (e.g. Crafting, Chest, Dispenser) all have separate pngs in the gui folder of texture packs - not sure if that helps? You probably have to write in your mod where to get the png file from or something?

You can write it I'm sure, just look at it and if in doubt an educated google search usually helps me?

Fracture · Post by **Fracture** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:34 pm

Experienced with coding in Java, but no experience in mod-making beyond the old xml editing haha. I want to learn, but for some reason none of my editors will allow me to open up minecraft's code. Thinking of getting MCP and seeing how it works, though.

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:35 pm

Kitty wrote:By texture override do you mean the command that pulls up the inventory thing as a window? If so then I know the screens (e.g. Crafting, Chest, Dispenser) all have separate pngs in the gui folder of texture packs - not sure if that helps? You probably have to write in your mod where to get the png file from or something?

You can write it I'm sure, just look at it and if in doubt an educated google search usually helps me?

texture override as in it makes each side of your block have a different look. Its kinda hard to explain. :/

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:37 pm

Its basically this http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_ ... e_Tutorial
but i cant understand what they are doing there and how i would put that into my coding.

darahalian · Post by **darahalian** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:45 pm

This thread was very useful to me when I started learning how to mod. It should help you with basic ModLoader stuff, like adding texture overrides and other stuff.

Also, like Kitty said, looking at existing code can be very useful, especially for learning basic Java syntax if you don't know it very well yet. For a good (simple) example of existing code for a block with different textures, you can look at BlockSandStone.java. I use MCP, and so I don't know if you can look at existing code very easily without decompiling minecraft.jar with MCP.

Both of these things were very useful to me when I made my first mod. It's a very simple mod, but I have a thread for it here on the Minecraft forums if you want to try it out. It is currently still for 1.6.6, but now that MCP has been updated, I will probably try to update it soon.

Kitty · Post by **Kitty** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:55 pm

SirSnapback wrote: texture override as in it makes each side of your block have a different look. Its kinda hard to explain. :/

Ah I was going to link that! From reading the article it looks like there are previous tutorial articles - have you skipped ahead some? Maybe go back and go through them? As FC said - start small :)

They are here http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/Cate ... Mod_System

Okay I was reading through the tutorials (with my very limited knowledge, sorry) and this tutorial: http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_ ... om_Texture has information on accessing the png file.
According to the tutorial you set up your mods files:
The first thing we want to do is set up our mods folder, mod_tut3 for tutorial purposes, and make all the files we are going to need for that. So go ahead and make that folder. Now make mod_tut3.java, ItemTut3.java, A lang folder with a en_US.lang in it. A gfx folder with a PNG (mcp.png).

Then in the mod_tut3.java file you have various overrides but this caught my eye:

@Override
public void onRegisterBlocksAndItems()
{
int tut3Icon = api().registerItemIcon(imageName(getClass(), "gfx/mcp.png"), 1);//This gives us a custom texture for the item. the "1" tells the Mod System to grab the second 16x16 pixel square(going from left to right) in the .png.

this.tut3 = new ItemTut3(api(), tut3Icon);

Does that all make sense? I'll try and find out more.

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:11 pm

Kitty wrote:
SirSnapback wrote: texture override as in it makes each side of your block have a different look. Its kinda hard to explain. :/
Ah I was going to link that! From reading the article it looks like there are previous tutorial articles - have you skipped ahead some? Maybe go back and go through them? As FC said - start small :)

They are here http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/Cate ... Mod_System

Okay I was reading through the tutorials (with my very limited knowledge, sorry) and this tutorial: http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_ ... om_Texture has information on accessing the png file.
According to the tutorial you set up your mods files:
The first thing we want to do is set up our mods folder, mod_tut3 for tutorial purposes, and make all the files we are going to need for that. So go ahead and make that folder. Now make mod_tut3.java, ItemTut3.java, A lang folder with a en_US.lang in it. A gfx folder with a PNG (mcp.png).

Then in the mod_tut3.java file you have various overrides but this caught my eye:

@Override
public void onRegisterBlocksAndItems()
{
int tut3Icon = api().registerItemIcon(imageName(getClass(), "gfx/mcp.png"), 1);//This gives us a custom texture for the item. the "1" tells the Mod System to grab the second 16x16 pixel square(going from left to right) in the .png.

this.tut3 = new ItemTut3(api(), tut3Icon);

Does that all make sense? I'll try and find out more.

Yeah that makes a lot more sence the way you shortened it xD Thanks! :)
I dont fully understand it but its getting clearer slowly. :D

redrew89 · Post by **redrew89** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:18 pm

I haven't actually done any coding, but I have been considering trying my hand at some things. I have limited programming experience, provided by several programming courses I took in high school. (Two years of object-oriented C++, followed by a year of simple Java.) But this was some time ago, and I haven't really done anything with that particular skill set. (Unless you count the abomination that is VB scripting in Access.)

I may, however, give it a shot with some of the tutorials out there.

Off-topic: @OP, may I borrow your signature banner? :)

Further off-topic: I see FC figured out how to globally disable graphical smilies. :P

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:37 pm

redrew89 wrote:I haven't actually done any coding, but I have been considering trying my hand at some things. I have limited programming experience, provided by several programming courses I took in high school. (Two years of object-oriented C++, followed by a year of simple Java.) But this was some time ago, and I haven't really done anything with that particular skill set. (Unless you count the abomination that is VB scripting in Access.)

I may, however, give it a shot with some of the tutorials out there.

Off-topic: @OP, may I borrow your signature banner? :)

Further off-topic: I see FC figured out how to globally disable graphical smilies. :P

Why im flattered you want to use the banner i made. :3
Go for it! Just can you put "made by SirSnapback" below it? Its a little thing but it makes me feel good :3 I offered FC to make it the official one but he never responded.. :/

Post by **FlowerChild** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:32 am

I do! I do! I make my own mods! :)

darahalian · Post by **darahalian** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:24 am

FlowerChild wrote:I do! I do! I make my own mods! :)

Really? That's awesome! Can we try them? ;)

Devalish · Post by **Devalish** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:53 am

I bet the Mod is rubbish, and nobody plays it.

On a more serious note, i am trying to get the hang of this
mod-thing. I just finished adding a sandstone stair, because
it's not in the game, and I'd really like to add sandstone stairs
to my sandstone house ^^

Urian · Post by **Urian** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:16 am

Not for minecraft but I've made mods for a few other games, starting with Deus Ex and TES to Fallout. Admittedly, I've only modded games that's had a tool for it though ;)

hooktail154 · Post by **hooktail154** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:19 am

I have my own mod: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/410 ... catorswip/

I started programming in AppleScript (think LISP - parentheses + smalltalk + English). It was really limited so moved on to obj-c/cocoa. Then, one day, I decided mod minecraft. I picked up Java in ten minutes (it's just c/++) and had my first block in another five.

After that, I made the furnace GUI say "frunace". Gotta start somewhere.

I started mucking around in the GuiIngame class and decided to create my mod. There's currently a huge update in the works, and all the graphics will be getting an update. (1.7.2 also). I've already used it to build and debug my elevator on my main (non-debug) world.

Also: Aspiring modders, read the entire MCP wiki. It works wonders. And use Eclipse.

Side-note: Using a different/unfamiliar IDE is almost like wearing someone else's underwear. It just feels odd. I will never disrespect you again, Xcode.

EDIT: I peeked at the BTW's code to see what was going on (and to figure out custom block renderers [no code copied, dun worry]). Flower, you write beautiful code. I aspire to be able to organize and implement things the way you do some day. Thank you again for this (now doubly) amazing mod.

SirSnapback · Post by **SirSnapback** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:23 am

Lmao i still cant get my texture override working. :l
I need help with it, any coders wanna help? xD

Creepig · Post by **Creepig** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 am

darahalian wrote:
FlowerChild wrote:I do! I do! I make my own mods! :)
Really? That's awesome! Can we try them? ;)

I laughed so hard that my cat looked at me funny.

I have yet to make a mod of my own. Being a professional programmer sorta burns me out when I come home; often times, the last thing I want to do is look at code. However, after a discussion in the #mcp-modding channel, I think I'm going to be making a mod in homage to my username.

BinoAl · Post by **BinoAl** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:35 am

I've done a bit of modding, but the only language im at all decent is is visual basic, which is really only good for learning non-object oriented programming :p I'm enrolled in college for a major in computer science with a focus on game design, but i start in the fall, and my first term is all basic shit, like teaching us how to use the internet. lul.

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