Anonymous wants to shut down the internet

Ungerbla · Post by **Ungerbla** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:19 pm

http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/28/anonymous ... -saturday/

kinda weird, they say they are doing it as a protest but i dont know.. arent there better forms of protesting?
is it even possible to shut the internet down?

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:22 pm

I would get involved in this because it's an issue that does interest me...However, discussing politics is a no-no on these forums. The recently implemented Rule 4.

Ungerbla · Post by **Ungerbla** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:29 pm

aah yes, sorry. i was interested in the "shut down internet" part. is it possible?

BinoAl · Post by **BinoAl** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:32 pm

Ungerbla wrote:aah yes, sorry. i was interested in the "shut down internet" part. is it possible?

It's conceivably possible, but there's no way in hell they can pull it off. Don't worry ^.^

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:33 pm

Well, if you read the whole article one person explains that the way the global network works would prevent them from shutting the entire thing down at once, they could shut down pockets, but those outages would soon be fixed...So throughout the day you could say that at one point or another many servers will have crashed...But as for a Y2K scale of outages...*Seriously doubt their strategy will be the one that causes such a crash, (he does mention that it's possible, just not likely.)* Not at all a computer tech person, but that is what I gleaned from the link above.

*Edit: for clarity

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:35 pm

Yes, as was revealed during the whole SOPA mess, the IT admins of the world have worked very hard to make sure DNS is very, very stable.

BinoAl · Post by **BinoAl** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:35 pm

TaterBoy wrote:Well, if you read the whole article one person explains that the way the global network works would prevent them from shutting the entire thing down at once, they could shut down pockets, but those outages would soon be fixed...So throughout the day you could say that at one point or another many servers will have crashed...But as for a Y2K scale of outages...Seriously doubt it is possible. Not at all a computer tech person, but that is what I gleaned from the link above.

From what I understand (Not too much ^.^), what they are talking about shutting down is just the dns servers, which essentially control website access through actual site names. The internet itself would still be functional, but most websites would be inaccessible.

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:37 pm

So this is an entirely different attack than a DDoS? Which as I understand is their usual modus operandi.

BinoAl · Post by **BinoAl** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:40 pm

TaterBoy wrote:So this is an entirely different attack than a DDoS? Which as I understand is their usual modus operandi.

DDoS will still probably be the style of attack they attempt to use to shut down the dns servers, but I doubt they would really be able to do any real damage to a dns server. Unless they have some other trick up their sleeve, this is probably just going to flop

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:42 pm

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BinoAl wrote:
TaterBoy wrote:So this is an entirely different attack than a DDoS? Which as I understand is their usual modus operandi.
DDoS will still probably be the style of attack they attempt to use to shut down the dns servers, but I doubt they would really be able to do any real damage to a dns server. Unless they have some other trick up their sleeve, this is probably just going to flop

Good thing too. I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...I'd miss you guys, even if it was just a day long outage. :)

Stormweaver · Post by **Stormweaver** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:56 pm

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TaterBoy wrote:Good thing too. I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...I'd miss you guys, even if it was just a day long outage. :)

TaterBoy wrote:I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:wolfies

Requesting ban for grievously insulting the community.

But on a more lighthearted and on-topic note, lol.

Catox · Post by **Catox** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:02 pm

TaterBoy wrote:Good thing too. I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...I'd miss you guys, even if it was just a day long outage. :)

you can also collect your favorite websites server ip addresses just in case ^__^

Syruse · Post by **Syruse** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:39 pm

If Anon pulls a "Mission Impossible" and has people on the "inside" I can conceive of this happening. All I'm saying is they better have the hacker equivalent to Ethan Hunt or else its just a pipe dream.

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:42 pm

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Stormweaver wrote:
TaterBoy wrote:Good thing too. I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...I'd miss you guys, even if it was just a day long outage. :)

TaterBoy wrote:I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:youwolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:wolfies
Requesting ban for grievously insulting the community.

But on a more lighthearted and on-topic note, lol.

My apologies, sincerely. I meant Wolfaboos. Truce?

SterlingRed · Post by **SterlingRed** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:56 pm

TaterBoy wrote:
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Stormweaver wrote:
TaterBoy wrote:Good thing too. I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...I'd miss you guys, even if it was just a day long outage. :)

TaterBoy wrote:I'm becoming quite fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:fond of you wolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:youwolfies...

TaterBoy wrote:wolfies
Requesting ban for grievously insulting the community.

But on a more lighthearted and on-topic note, lol.
My apologies, sincerely. I meant Wolfaboos. Truce?

I think you misunderstand the definition of "Wolfaboo" ...

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:10 pm

I really thought I was paying a compliment, I'm honestly sorry if it wasn't. The delivery may have been bad, but my intentions were good.

Edit: I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. I had never heard the term before coming to this forum, so I thought maybe it was a nickname FC just gave to the more sincere fans. Scouts honor.

Itamarcu · Post by **Itamarcu** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:18 pm

TaterBoy wrote:I really thought I was paying a compliment, I'm honestly sorry if it wasn't. The delivery may have been bad, but my intentions were good.

Edit: I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. I had never heard the term before coming to this forum, so I thought maybe it was a nickname FC just gave to the more sincere fans. Scouts honor.

Wolfaboos means "wolf lovers", "FlowerChild Haters" and/or "Zoophiles" in this board.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:29 pm

TaterBoy wrote:I really thought I was paying a compliment, I'm honestly sorry if it wasn't. The delivery may have been bad, but my intentions were good.

Edit: I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. I had never heard the term before coming to this forum, so I thought maybe it was a nickname FC just gave to the more sincere fans. Scouts honor.

As itamarcu pointed out, unfortunately the term wolfaboo is about the total opposite of what you thought it was. xD
Raust is our one token wolfaboo, who we keep as a pet in order to teach the others the folly of their ways. Either that or to lull them into a false sense of security. I can't ever remember.

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:48 pm

Well, now I know. And as GI-Joe says, knowing is half the battle. :)

TheAnarchitect · Post by **TheAnarchitect** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:02 pm

TaterBoy wrote:Well, now I know. And as GI-Joe says, knowing is half the battle. :)

The other half is violence.

Unless you're GI Socrates. Then the other half is "You don't know anything."

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:20 pm

TheAnarchitect wrote:
TaterBoy wrote:Well, now I know. And as GI-Joe says, knowing is half the battle. :)
The other half is violence.

Unless you're GI Socrates. Then the other half is "You don't know anything."

If I had any more room in my signature, this would be part of it.

Rasuth · Post by **Rasuth** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:29 pm

Taken care of that for ya, Morv. ;)

On Topic, I don't think that anonymous can effectively affect the Internet for long. But will just have to wait and see.

TaterBoy · Post by **TaterBoy** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:02 pm

Does making it into someone's signature mean I'm at least partially forgiven? :)

Back on topic, I followed the link to Robert Graham's blog to see his perspective in greater detail, it's definitely worth a look for those who haven't already.

Errata Security: No, Anonymous can't DDoS the root DNS servers

Edit: Hehe...This is even better. I never considered the fact that this is all probably an elaborate April Fool's Day joke "Anonymous Style"

We're Being Trolled

Poppycocks · Post by **Poppycocks** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:14 pm

I personally think that they might as well attempt to shut down all stupidity in the world.

Then again anonymous is legion, they do not forgive, they do not forget, who knows what they've got up their fancy suit sleeves?

Some insider work isn't out of the question. Long preparing and a massive amount of reflectors isn't fully out of the question either. Then again, all of that is too much risk and too much buck for way too little bang.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, yes?

RaustBlackDragon · Post by **RaustBlackDragon** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:45 pm

morvelaira wrote:
TaterBoy wrote:I really thought I was paying a compliment, I'm honestly sorry if it wasn't. The delivery may have been bad, but my intentions were good.

Edit: I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary. I had never heard the term before coming to this forum, so I thought maybe it was a nickname FC just gave to the more sincere fans. Scouts honor.
As itamarcu pointed out, unfortunately the term wolfaboo is about the total opposite of what you thought it was. xD
Raust is our one token wolfaboo, who we keep as a pet in order to teach the others the folly of their ways. Either that or to lull them into a false sense of security. I can't ever remember.

Yeah, something along those lines, PR reasons in other words :)

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