Weapons were nerfed: How will the Longsword be changed?

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Weapons were nerfed: How will the Longsword be changed?

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Hey, I'm just curious, it doesn't look like anybody else has asked this: basically, wooden swords still do 2 hearts, but now the increase is half a heart per level, rather than a full heart, to make the damage boost enchantments more meaningful. This means that the long sword, if left unchanged, will be more than 3 times stronger than the diamond sword, rather than 2 times. Any plans to reduce the long sword's damage when you update it to minecraft 1.0?
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There's still several weeks left before the 1.0 update man.
And even then, the update will be the first step, balancing the mod will be the second.
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Battosay wrote:There's still several weeks left before the 1.0 update man.
And even then, the update will be the first step, balancing the mod will be the second.
I'm fully aware of the delay between the 1.0 release and the mod updates, being a modder myself. However, I often find myself looking at the changes made in new releases and thinking of ways this could impact my mod, and then thinking of courses of action. I was just wondering if FlowerChild had any such thoughts on his weapons and armor, etc.
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Re: Weapons were nerfed: How will the Longsword be changed?

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Easy: I'll nerf it.
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Damn. No longer one hit kill? That sucks :P
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No one-hit-kills with an unenchanted weapon. If it follows a similiar formula to vMC weapons then a fully enchanted sword will do more damage than an unenchanted pre-change.
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FlowerChild wrote:Easy: I'll nerf it.

I'm not sure why, Flower, but this response amused me. One of those "Ask a silly question, get a silly answer," type moments that I find chuckle-worthy.

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Honestly, I'm not surprised that Mojang did nerf weapons for the 1.0 release. I've been playing around with a new world in 1.0, and noticed that it did take more swings from my stone sword to drop a zombie. I suppose this all factors into the risk/reward equation that I tend to consider when I think about how vMC, and to a greater extent, BTW, is balanced.
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My feelings on the weapons nerf are mixed. I understand them wanting to make the game harder, but it doesn't feel harder, only more tedious..
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For those using 1.0 you now have to click per swing with the sword rather than hold down the mouse button. Has that feature been there since 1.8.1 or is my memory finally deteriorating?
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PatrickSJ wrote:For those using 1.0 you now have to click per swing with the sword rather than hold down the mouse button. Has that feature been there since 1.8.1 or is my memory finally deteriorating?
It has been like that since weapons were introduced IIRC. So yeah, it's never been different.
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You're wrong, at least up until 1.7 holding the left button kept attacking. Slower than mashing left click but it kept on swinging. ;]
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Notch's game design philosophy seems to be "Tedius = Harder = Better". The more "complete" vMC becomes the less impressed with the guy I am.
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