MC Speculation: About dimensions and darkness

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MC Speculation: About dimensions and darkness

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Posting this here, since not directly related to the ender spectacles spoiler thread, where the following quote comes from. Link
Devdisigdu wrote:
Prof_Ion wrote:So does this mean that torches posses the ability to strengthen these weeks spots? or is it light that does it? So suddenly magic torches or light strengthens weaknesses in time and space preventing monsters from teleporting to that spot with the exception of endermen?
And would Mob Spawners would be arcane artefacts that actively weaken the area around them when they sense a nearby sentient presence?

Who or what would make such a thing?
What about bedrock then?

Reading this, i remembered that the deeper you go in the overworld, the closer Steve's line of sight gets (aka Void fog), which means more darkness... ...coincidence, you find bedrock.

Question: just as torches/lanterns/light blocks emanate light, does bedrock actually emanate darkness?

Other creepy interesting facts:

- Obsidian can be mined/BD'ed, SFS blocks can be mined... ...bedrock is invulnerable. Period.
- Ender crystals look like they are made of it; the End exit portal is built with actual bedrock blocks...
- Bedrock is the ONLY block that appears naturally in every dimension (overworld: depth 0-5; nether: both bottom and top; End: see above). Gravel is present in Overworld and Nether, but not in the End, whereas Obsidian is absent in the Nether, barring player generated portals.

A material supposedly made from sentient hostile forces, seemingly inter-dimensional, impervious to all sorts of damage, and radiating darkness... ...worst of all, lots of it are right under your feet.
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Let's not forget that Steve has an interest in making a faux-bedrock block, which is pretty cool.
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Digging further underground used to spawn monsters even in higher light levels. (removed pretty much as soon as it was added but it's a related to light/dark/etc.)
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Re: MC Speculation: About dimensions and darkness

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But mobs don't spawn on bedrock, which makes it even more confusing. Perhaps they ooze an excess of darkness, like the way oxygen is needed for many lifeforms, but too much is also bad.

Hmm . . . maybe souls cause free radicals . . .
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Cuchonchuir wrote:But mobs don't spawn on bedrock, which makes it even more confusing. Perhaps they ooze an excess of darkness, like the way oxygen is needed for many lifeforms, but too much is also bad.

Hmm . . . maybe souls cause free radicals . . .
Since when do they not spawn on bedrock? Pretty sure that they can spawn on any full, solid block. The point that it's the only block present in all three dimensions though is an interesting point. Remember that redstone is formed because traces of netherrack leak through the bottom layer of the world and mix with gold.

My theory behind the whole idea that darkness was connected to the weak spots between dimensions is that it has to do with how similar a certain part of the overworld is to the other dimensions. Keeping this in mind, the only real unifying factor between all the dimensions is the idea of light levels, and so far all the other dimensions have been very dark.

While the end is technically darker than the nether because of the fact that the lava and fire provide light, really when you say that bedrock can occur naturally in the End, that only happens after you defeat the Enderdragon, so the endermen can't use the presence of bedrock much to their advantage. They have to stick to dark, open places.

Keeping this idea of similarities in mind, really the only differences between the lava layer of the overworld and the Nether are that the caves in the overworld are smaller and are made of stone instead of netherrack. Considering how strong the connection between the Nether and the overworld is already so strong, this large amount of similarities may just be allowing relatively large amounts of souls to seep into the air around the lava layer and, with no netherrack to absorb them, they just hang around in the air.

As to where bedrock comes from though, I still have no idea where it comes from but I'm leaning more towards the idea that it formed naturally somehow.

Also, thanks for starting this thread so that we have a proper place to speculate about this sort of stuff, Fc doesn't like the dev diary thread getting too off topic.
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Actually, the end crystals spawn on top of an actual bedrock block, which brings up an interesting point: the crystals are linked to it. Perhaps they harness the darkness generated by bedrock and use it to heal the dragon?

Edit: And the fact that they are on top of giant obelisks could mean that the endermen are liked to the obelisks, and harness its strong power of darkness to teleport anywhere they wish.
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I think the darkness around the bottom of the map is generated via the void somehow managing to seep through the seemingly impenatrible bedrock. Also ender crystals aren't made of bedrock, they're formed on a bedrock base out of concetrated void/ender energy.
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TheLordOfDerp wrote:I think the darkness around the bottom of the map is generated via the void somehow managing to seep through the seemingly impenatrible bedrock. Also ender crystals aren't made of bedrock, they're formed on a bedrock base out of concetrated void/ender energy.
That is exactly what I said. They spawn on top of the bedrock, and harness its power. I never said they were made of bedrock.
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