Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
- Skyte Aero
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Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Came to me earlier, that with the mobs not respawning or breeding. Plop the flesh into the millstone, and you get scoured leather out. Maybe have another step to the process, like going from the flesh to leather.
It doesn't make perfect sense, but insert "zombies have tougher flesh" explantion, and maybe it sounds ok.
It doesn't make perfect sense, but insert "zombies have tougher flesh" explantion, and maybe it sounds ok.
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
not a bad idea, might need a bit of "fleshing" out though
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I think I like this. What about making it so 32 rotten flesh turns into 1 tanned leather and making it the alternate tanned leather route FC is looking for?
32 is just an arbitrary number that seemed right. It needs to be high enough that it's a similar bottleneck to finding wolves in 1.7
32 is just an arbitrary number that seemed right. It needs to be high enough that it's a similar bottleneck to finding wolves in 1.7
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
perhaps just a 75% chance (or something so its still worth finding cows for) of not getting anything
- Stormweaver
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
I don't think I'd want it going straight into tanned leather, but being able to scour it seems good. I'm with walker on the 'chance' thing; maybe nerf it a bit more though - 1/8 or 1/16 chance of it not falling apart (it is zombie flesh after all) and being turned into scoured leather would be fine. At least it'd be better than the expected tallow end result. And add to BTW's ambience nicely.
"Hey, that's a nice strap on your pickaxe! what's it made from?"
"Zombie flesh, boiled together with wolf dung over a fire fuelled by the tortured spirits of the damned"
"Niiice."
"Hey, that's a nice strap on your pickaxe! what's it made from?"
"Zombie flesh, boiled together with wolf dung over a fire fuelled by the tortured spirits of the damned"
"Niiice."
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Perhaps it could be used to only make straps, that way you still need to find a cow to make the bellows. You could say that the zombies don't give enough material to make a full hide and so only give scraps.
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
I like the idea of having to possibly farm differently, or explore further to get enough material to get a bellows, as compared to just enough to get a saw.GeckoDragon wrote:Perhaps it could be used to only make straps, that way you still need to find a cow to make the bellows. You could say that the zombies don't give enough material to make a full hide and so only give scraps.
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Hehe...I must admit that I kinda like the idea of Steve making everything out of tanned human skin, but personally I think rotten flesh will be way too abundant a resource to really do this.
Also, at present, the whole tanned leather things encourages you to have both passive and aggressive mob traps. Providing this kind of workaround would largely narrow it down to just aggro being able to supply you with everything.
BTW: I'm also NOT looking for a workaround to the tanning process. I really like how no matter how clear I am about my intentions, someone always manages to warp them.
Also, at present, the whole tanned leather things encourages you to have both passive and aggressive mob traps. Providing this kind of workaround would largely narrow it down to just aggro being able to supply you with everything.
BTW: I'm also NOT looking for a workaround to the tanning process. I really like how no matter how clear I am about my intentions, someone always manages to warp them.
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Hmm~
use the flesh to collect leather scraps, fashion scraps with string into full leather pieces?
e: On a personal level I don't really like mob traps, hunting helpless animals and dangerous beasts is more fun, but that IS a consideration for the mod as a whole. Even if I think automation is getting pretty saturated. At least BTW makes it work to automate things instead of just providing a direct means with pipes and things.
use the flesh to collect leather scraps, fashion scraps with string into full leather pieces?
e: On a personal level I don't really like mob traps, hunting helpless animals and dangerous beasts is more fun, but that IS a consideration for the mod as a whole. Even if I think automation is getting pretty saturated. At least BTW makes it work to automate things instead of just providing a direct means with pipes and things.
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
If we give FC an arbitrary large amount of time and resources minecraft is going to become a really morbid place to live :P
And btw human flesh and animal leather are really not nearly similar are they?
And btw human flesh and animal leather are really not nearly similar are they?
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
No, I'm pretty sure human flesh can be processed into leather. It's just kinda...well, I don't know how well received it'd be if you were made into a jacket or something.MoRmEnGiL wrote:If we give FC an arbitrary large amount of time and resources minecraft is going to become a really morbid place to live :P
And btw human flesh and animal leather are really not nearly similar are they?
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I don't get the impression that it would be as thick, or durable, as cow hide though.Stormweaver wrote: No, I'm pretty sure human flesh can be processed into leather. It's just kinda...well, I don't know how well received it'd be if you were made into a jacket or something.
Again, I *do* like the idea of Steve going all Texas Chainsaw Massacre on us, I just don't think it would do good things for the mod overall in terms of the tech progression :)
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I dunno...I know a few people who could probably rival cows.FlowerChild wrote:I don't get the impression that it would be as thick, or durable, as cow hide though.Stormweaver wrote: No, I'm pretty sure human flesh can be processed into leather. It's just kinda...well, I don't know how well received it'd be if you were made into a jacket or something.
Again, I *do* like the idea of Steve going all Texas Chainsaw Massacre on us, I just don't think it would do good things for the mod overall in terms of the tech progression :)
Not that I have anything against cows, you mind. It would be nice to see human flesh be good for something beyond tallow production...perhaps give us a nice recipe involving cactus?
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Hides only get tough once they are tanned.FlowerChild wrote:I don't get the impression that it would be as thick, or durable, as cow hide though.Stormweaver wrote: No, I'm pretty sure human flesh can be processed into leather. It's just kinda...well, I don't know how well received it'd be if you were made into a jacket or something.
Again, I *do* like the idea of Steve going all Texas Chainsaw Massacre on us, I just don't think it would do good things for the mod overall in terms of the tech progression :)
Just to add to this I feed my wolves rotten flesh since pigs are now a rare commodity.
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FlowerChild wrote:I don't get the impression that it would be as thick, or durable, as cow hide though.Stormweaver wrote: No, I'm pretty sure human flesh can be processed into leather. It's just kinda...well, I don't know how well received it'd be if you were made into a jacket or something.
Again, I *do* like the idea of Steve going all Texas Chainsaw Massacre on us, I just don't think it would do good things for the mod overall in terms of the tech progression :)
It would be great for making lampshades. Human skin tends to be quite thin. It would go along way toward justifying bedrock fog reduction lamps. 'Look at me nether! I belong here! You don't need to obstruct my view!'
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
I was wondering before if the rotten flesh would be added as a potential tallow ingredient. No idea yet what tallow will be for, or how rare or abundant the plan for it is, but I guess the rotten flesh:tallow ratio could be adjusted for balance and could be explained by removing the rotten bits. Maybe mill it, then to the cauldron?
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Or soap! There are some good emulsifiers in that flesh which could be quite useful.
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Actually, I decided it would be rendered into glue, since I'd expect the fat content to be pretty low, and plus it leaves the tallow in the domain of animal-farming.Speltz wrote:I was wondering before if the rotten flesh would be added as a potential tallow ingredient. No idea yet what tallow will be for, or how rare or abundant the plan for it is, but I guess the rotten flesh:tallow ratio could be adjusted for balance and could be explained by removing the rotten bits. Maybe mill it, then to the cauldron?
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Mmmmmm........ Human glue. Also, considering Steve is the only human in all of Minecraftland, where do all these god damn zombies keep coming from? Is Steve the sole survivor of a world wide zompocalypse?FlowerChild wrote: Actually, I decided it would be rendered into glue, since I'd expect the fat content to be pretty low, and plus it leaves the tallow in the domain of animal-farming.
Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
I want an armor made out of rotten flesh!
It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the saw again!
It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the saw again!
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Dammit, Urian. I just came in here to make that joke. You asshole.Urian wrote:I want an armor made out of rotten flesh!
It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the saw again!
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
well since you guys brought it up, how about a song.
It's FC mod, he just lets us play it.
Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Urian wrote:I want an armor made out of rotten flesh!
It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the saw again!
You could almost automate this. Put the zombie in the hole. Lower the lotion with a pulley and platform. Use a piston to control the water flow of the hose.
Now if we can only figure out how to make a detector block see if the zombie is putting on the lotion...
Thanks for posting that song, the_fodder. I hadn't heard it before and it made me laugh.
Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
Maybe the Rotten Flesh Melted With Something in the Calderon could be separated into dung and leather, like a alternative way f having dung, and solve the wolf problem since zombies are found everywhere!!
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Re: Rotten Flesh -> Scoured Leather
1.) Explain to me how you can melt flesh of any kind ...GabLann4 wrote:Maybe the Rotten Flesh Melted With Something in the Calderon could be separated into dung and leather, like a alternative way f having dung, and solve the wolf problem since zombies are found everywhere!!
2.) The cauldron isn't for melting stuff.
3.) FC said that there won't be additional sources of dung due to game balance (especially not something as abundant as zombies).