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Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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Hi, a friend of mine wants to make a semi-private (for a small group of friends) server with BuildCraft, IndustrialCraft and such and asked my if I would port it for him. Even though I'm not going to release it to the public, I thought I'd better check with FC about it first. And because FC said not to PM him, or an admin to contact him I'm forced to make a topic about it. Oh, and he said not to make topics addressing him either. :S Don't know how else to contact him though... Hope an admin will see this.
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Re: Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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I'm sure his fine with it. Don't know what you mean exactly by "porting" it to SMP. You mean that you can make this mod work on multiplayer? If so, that would take away work from FC because I'm kinda sure he said he was working on making BTW available for multiplayer.
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Re: Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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Yeah, it's fine man. As long as you aren't publicly redistributing the code, I'm fine with it :)
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So long as nothing you distribute includes any of FC's code, that'll be fine.

That said...good luck. You may need it.

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Awesome! :D

EDIT: Oh, forgot about the client. Umm... The client will need to be released on a public forum topic. How will that work? May I release the whole SMP Client or should I release just the patched classes (almost all of them.)
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MathWizz wrote:Awesome! :D

EDIT: Oh, forgot about the client. Umm... The client will need to be released on a public forum topic. How will that work? May I release the whole SMP Client or should I release just the patched classes (almost all of them.)
No, this is NOT allowed. That's a public redistribution, and exactly what I said you could not do above.
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:/ How can I do it then? You wouldn't be willing to host the port would you? Sorry if I'm being a bother.
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MathWizz wrote::/ How can I do it then? You wouldn't be willing to host the port would you? Sorry if I'm being a bother.
Don't use a public server to redistribute it to your friends. Sorry, but that's the only solution here.
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Or make a patcher? A patcher wouldn't distribute any of your code
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The thing is really, if its just a "semi-private" group of friends than what is holding you off from hosting it on dropbox or something and sending th elink to your friend? Unless what you really mean to do is host i publicly in which case it's not allowed.
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Re: Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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Before wasting any more time on this guys, one thing to note:

Pulling off an SMP port, especially without the original source-code, is a non-trivial task.

I've received a ton of messages like this since this mod started, and none of them have ever amounted to anything. If the guy gets something working, more power to him, but I sincerely doubt this will ever become a reality.
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MathWizz wrote::/ How can I do it then? You wouldn't be willing to host the port would you? Sorry if I'm being a bother.
Public btw servers can't really happen right now, with FC's policy on redistributing code. However, to play on a server with a couple friends, I think you can just email the mod to them. As long as it isn't public. Im like 90% sure on this, so still check with FC to make sure its ok
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Create a patcher that installs the mod for them. It is really easy to do and still keep it closed source.

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TBH though, it wouldn't be worth the effort. The amount of time it would take you to reverse engineer/crack his source, he'd probably release his own smp version by the time you did.
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Last thing that I remember FC said he was going to wait for the update to how Mc handled multi player servers before even starting to think about a smp version of BTW. Is there any chance that you will share your current plans?
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the_fodder wrote:Last thing that I remember FC said he was going to wait for the update to how Mc handled multi player servers before even starting to think about a smp version of BTW. Is there any chance that you will share your current plans?
If I were him I'd wait till the code freeze/official release. there's no point in having to continuously update both SMP and single player versions of it every time notch releases one of his micro-patches every night.
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Re: Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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Alright! I have everything decompiled and running in MCP fine without any major errors. There are just bugs like the client crashing when the hopper GUI is openend. The Block Dispenser GUI works fine though. I have a lot of bugs to fix...
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im quite impressed you have it working, good job
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Hmm...whats going to happen if he can pull it off?
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Blueblade11 wrote:Hmm...whats going to happen if he can pull it off?
what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immoveable object? No one knows until we see it happen.
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Blueblade11 wrote:Hmm...whats going to happen if he can pull it off?
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Blueblade11 wrote:Hmm...whats going to happen if he can pull it off?
a few hundred PMs and a lot of 'private' sharing later, everyone'll be playing BTW in multiplayer.
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Re: Permission to port BTW to SMP for semi-private server

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Stormweaver wrote:
Blueblade11 wrote:Hmm...whats going to happen if he can pull it off?
a few hundred PMs and a lot of 'private' sharing later, everyone'll be playing BTW in multiplayer.
Don't be a jack-ass. Thread closed.
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