Hardcore Nether Animals Discussion (Spoilers)

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B-but muh creative challenge!

You're probably right when it comes down to efficiency.
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Apologies for the necro, but I would like to test if spiders (and other non-cow mobs) spawned from a cow's bosom are flagged to never despawn, and I seem to be having difficulty with the cows giving birth to non-cows. They're definitely possessed, but I guess they don't give abomination children if you're in creative?

Can anyone confirm whether or not the mobs despawn? Besides my above issue, I figure confirmation from others could help with verification that it is in fact a feature.
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abculatter_2 wrote:but I guess they don't give abomination children if you're in creative?
Not sure if it applies in this case. But various features of the mod are disabled in creative to force the players to figure it out in survival mode.
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Can someone please just tell me how they work?
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It's Nothing To Worry About
FlowerChild wrote:BANG! BANG! BANG!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!! GET OUT OF FUCKING MY HEAD! HIRE A FUCKING GAME DESIGNER! Fuck.
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But seriously.
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Shadow and flame.
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Ones and zeroes.
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Oh come on, FC. It's been like three years.
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If only there was a thread that had all the information...
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If there is, please link it.

If you're referring to this thread, of which I've read the entirety, then no. Someone, knows how they work but decided to simply say they knew but wouldn't tell anyone. Who was that?
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BobSlingblade679 wrote:If there is, please link it.

If you're referring to this thread, of which I've read the entirety, then no. Someone, knows how they work but decided to simply say they knew but wouldn't tell anyone. Who was that?
This is one of those features that is largely up to details. FC really doesn't like if we post straight out mechanics (something about wheelbarrows and spread eagles, I think it's an American thing).

So yeah, here's how the feature works: animals near nether portals bad. If you want to find out what kind of bad, then experiment. Basically, it's really easy to see the effect, so don't search too far. The only two animals to be really careful about is wolves and chickens, they do a simple obvious thing that causes a less obvious effect.

Have fun :)
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I appreciate the answer, but you just told me everything already in this thread.

Maybe I should be more specific in my question.

Is there a way to block them?

How long does it take before villagers are infected? I want to bring villagers back to my base but I'm not keen on wrangling 4k blocks across the overworld.
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pretty sure the moment they go through the portal they're already doomed.

even if not so, 500 blocks in the nether is still more than enough time to infect them.

also, nope no blocking it. Why would FC allow you to prevent having "FUN"?
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BobSlingblade679 wrote:I appreciate the answer, but you just told me everything already in this thread.

Maybe I should be more specific in my question.

Is there a way to block them?

How long does it take before villagers are infected? I want to bring villagers back to my base but I'm not keen on wrangling 4k blocks across the overworld.
Ah, that's a more specific question. The answer is simple: you're not supposed to move villagers to your base. The idea is that you set a second base for villager trading. It's of course possible to move them, but it's a huuuuuuge undertaking.

So yeah, no, there's no way to move villagers or livestock through the nether, you just build a second base, or you move them over land, which is probably something you do post-end? Due to the way Minecraft generates, there's a high likelyhood that this includes building a squid-proof bridge over ocean too.

This is why we stay vague in lots of these threads. If you can't figure it out, you're probably just doing something you're not meant to, like trying to cheat the system altogether.
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Well, shit. I was afraid of that.

Guess it's time for another thread.

Thanks for the replies.
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or you just tunnel your way to a village after the cauldron tech.
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That's a LOT of torches. Before HcDark, I might have slabbed a tunnel with the resources i'd get, anyway.

I dunno... maybe a massive, manual kiln system for charcoal.

Still, the mining itself would take ages cuz of stratification.

Have you actually done that? That would be insanely impressive.

--edit--

Wait, I'm dumb. That's only like 500 torches for a 5k trek.
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The best idea is to set up a secondary home near a village with priests. But if you don't want that, build roads once you're post iron. I did it recently and had lots of fun. Roads with way point safe houses allow you to safely bring villagers back home and make an adventure of it.

But experiment with the portals for goodness sake. Even the side effects can be used to your extreme advantage with some tenacity and creativity. The folks not telling you the answer outright know the fun in figuring it out. Later folks. Going feather falling with style! Thanks, portals!!!
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I know all of the effects. I'm not going to experiment with villagers. Cows seem to be the only useful one and that seems debatable given squid are already farmable.

Anyway, the periodic safe house thing is a cool idea. I might do that. But villagers are slow...
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BobSlingblade679 wrote:That's a LOT of torches. Before HcDark, I might have slabbed a tunnel with the resources i'd get, anyway.

I dunno... maybe a massive, manual kiln system for charcoal.

Still, the mining itself would take ages cuz of stratification.

Have you actually done that? That would be insanely impressive.

--edit--

Wait, I'm dumb. That's only like 500 torches for a 5k trek.
i did that thrice on my worlds. and all tunnels were at the y lvl 11 or 12, at the level of lava lakes. this way i get both benefit of diamond/ore mining and having a fail save tunnel back home. from time to time i made a shaft to the surface and a land mark above it. this is started only after i know where the village is and the area above is mapped. last world i also got lucky with two abandoned villagers in a nearby village and i took them home by walking overground.
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