Finally, I do rather resent the implication that we are busy turning forge into a "make work" project and that we have no "real" skill. I think that's an ad hominem attack. No, you have skill, that wasn't really my point about neither you nor Lex being modders. That's a statemen...

Hi Flowerchild, I am naturally disappointed. I did offer to build you a "repackaged" forge to help you get on board but never said you wanted it, so I left it. We believe they are necessary in the long term - expect more announcements soon which will help add additional context to this dec...

Hi flowerchild, we think that the ban is lifted, you should be able to access minecraftforge.net now, if not let me know. The place you'll want to go for forge downloads is files.minecraftforge.net. We automatically build and post all builds to that site. Use the * links next to the src and universa...

Guys, please don't feed the trolls in this topic. It just serves to derail it. If you're still around cpw, I've got a couple of questions for you about the capacities of the modern forge: -Are hooks provided for reflecting vanilla blocks? I assume you're referring to somehow manipulating the variou...

Why did this change get implemented now when it will break massive amounts of code? The major advantage of an all encompassing API like Forge is that you can publish a stable set of interfaces that don't change from version to version and modders won't have to update their mods at the whims of Moja...

You have one, obvious, source tree. Ok, that one leaves me scratching my head. To me, it's the difference between this: ..snip pictures.. In the first case, if I want to find an MC base-class, I scroll down the list of class names, based on all of them being named by a particular convention which i...

@CPW, The coding style in particular has been a bother. I get that it *looks* nice and all, but for modders like myself who are using the forge for convenience... Well, the amount of trouble I went through with updating my mod in more recent updates has just been growing more and more annoying. I d...

Both sort of derive from a common need: merging the client and server back into the original code base. That was made possible by the merged obfuscation in 1.3 and the server merging into the client, as you know. For a while we had two source trees: common and client (server died early on - it had 3...

I am happy to answer any and all questions on FML and Forge..

OK. So, I can forsee you having a few challenges. The package rename might be the immediate hurdle. Keeping the modloader interface is not a problem. That should work fine, though for dedicated server, you'll need to flag some of the client only stuff as @sideonly(client) What are the abstractions y...

I haven't heard of this fireworks issue myself. It may be a modloader specific issue - I have seen some mention of a firework problem on risu's thread but so far nowhere else. They seem to be working that I can see. So far 1.4.7 hasn't been mentioned to me. If there is one it will likely be a 1.4.4...

I haven't heard of this fireworks issue myself. It may be a modloader specific issue - I have seen some mention of a firework problem on risu's thread but so far nowhere else. They seem to be working that I can see. So far 1.4.7 hasn't been mentioned to me. If there is one it will likely be a 1.4.4/...

I genuinely like it. It is very creative, and if you look past the BWF sub agenda I think it is a valuable message - forge is a tool, an api, NOT a movement. I wish to resist the hero worshippers who believe that we're doing something amazing. You think I enjoy the crazy at MCF and other places, bot...

Stormweaver wrote:Can't say he doesn't have good taste. Love that borg banner.

Me too. That reminds me...

Yes. We pushed the forge update on Monday. Our policy is to maximize developer changeover time by getting FML and Forge out as quickly as possible after a pre-release. It has been since 1.3. 1.3 missed for reasons documented elsewhere, not all under our control. Every FML and Forge release since the...

On slowpoke, he is mistaken about the birth if FML. Otherwise I have found him to be quite honourable. On searge, he has a very specific reason to want widespread FML adoption, it gives him capabilities he has long sought. I am glad of and welcome his advocacy, however, I do agree that publicizing h...

Slowpoke is wrong. FML was born before the FTB project had really evolved. Its all on github. The migration to the client side from the server was motivated by the possibility of a truly open source platform. Of course FTB was a direct benefactor of that but it was only one of several factors in tha...

Hello flowerchild. I am not here to defend the author of BWF. In my opinion it is misguided, but I do not control the actions of others.. I am here to take issue with your repeated accusation that I ripped off modloader. I take quite serious offence to the notion. FML started as a new refresh on por...

Thanks for the reply flowerchild. I will respect your wishes. FML's existence as a debate: that's a different question and this is not an appropriate forum. Though https://github.com/Mojang/Minecraft-API/commits/master isn't inspiring me that this API is going to happen as soon as you believe... Tha...

Elevatator wrote:Okay, so sorry then. It´s just (a bit) weird, and I think I have become what I hate most. I have acted completely wrong, in both cases, that you are just a troll (I would have fed them), and that you are this Forge Person (being "a bit" too hostile)

Never mind. It happens to us all...

Yeah he basically said as much before about the guy who supposedly made BTW compatible with forge with redistributing any BTW changes but it turned out that he actually was redistributing btw changes. Even if you can make BTW compatible with FML you're still a long way from making it compatible wit...

Identity proof: https://github.com/cpw/FML/issues/90 unless you wish to dispute that github has somehow been subverted and I am NOT the author of FML... Please, I don't want to start an argument. I am trying to ask a civil question: will BTW and it's author, FlowerChild, take active steps to prevent...

No code would be distributed that wasn't my own. I have asm patches that can 'fix' FML (and potentially forge as well) for btw support. To be honest, since I control the actual mod loading code itself, I can no doubt subvert any attempt to stop this. I would rather not, however. The reason I ask is ...

I would like to enable FML to support loading Better Than Wolves. My concern is that I don't wish for there to become some kind of arms race between us. I just wish to allow a very popular mod, not to say one of my favourite original mods, to run on a platform that I myself built. I am hoping that y...